• SuperSynthia@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    “Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary” —-Karl Marx

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        Karl Marx isn’t really random, he is the godfather of communism. Now I am not a full blown communist by any means but Karl Marx was a really smart dude who correctly saw and anticipated the negative effects of capitalism. It’s ok to disagree, I respect that completely but I’d ask we keep it civil.

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      Ha ha I see how your worker’s rights ended up even with guns, you fucking coward 😂

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        Normally I would just let it slide, but I’m bored so why not have some discourse :)

        1. I do not own fire arms personally due to mental health issues. I do carry pepper spray and have a taser readily available. Worst case scenario a bow I use for hunting.

        2. There are legitimate uses for fire arms full stop. Protection against bodily threats, hunting, tyrannical government, etc.

        3. I support universal background checks and “common sense gun regulation”. It is a dangerous tool, but it is still just a tool. I’d love to see mandatory fire arm safety training before attempting to buy a gun.

        4. Workers rights are bogged down because of hierarchical systems designed towards uplifting the few and the expense of the many.

        Why should the government have exclusive use of violence? In any case, the eventual goal (for me personally and people like me) is peace and liberty. Until that happens the working class must have access to fire arms. The people who should not own guns are those with mental health issues, and access should be limited to trained/responsible individuals.

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          7 months ago

          (Sorry not trying to be a dick just some info)

          Drop that taser, they’re worthless. The ones the cops use are only effective 60% of the time, and those are the shooty bois with the barbs that aren’t legal for civilians in every state (some states OK). The ones most people have that are only effective at contact distance anyway are basically just annoying, it’s impossible to get intramuscular incapacitation with them afaik, as that requires appropriate prong spread that is only a thing with the shooty bois (if you’re the right distance away to get the spread, and the guy doesn’t have a heavy coat which half the time will catch the barbs.) Frankly running, OC, or if the threat is deadly a hammer, would all be better than the taser unless you’re fighting a lot of naked wet dudes maybe lol.

          The OC spray is great however, get the highest % you legally can in your area and preferably stream over gel. They do go bad, check the dates on it, if no date replace at least every ~2y. I use Pom OC myself, but there’s many others.

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          A gun is not a tool you need. It is just needed because you expect others to also have it.

          Against random robberies, pepperspray, tasers or sirens are better.

          If “the woman at night on the walk home” has a gun, “the robber” has one too. Nothing won.

          If it is circulating, you cannot prevent the wrong people from getting them.

          I see how not only the police having guns is nice. But this means they shoot way quicker. See the rate of deaths by police in germany, its always below 30.

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            7 months ago

            I get what your saying completely. I don’t disagree per se actually (my brain tells me we just have lived in a crazy time for the past couple hundred years, guns are super prolific.). I would love if the police disarmed as well.