[Update Oct 2: data sharing to become optional] Philips Hue will force users to upload their data to Hue cloud
www.home-assistant.io
To control your lights you soon need to create an account and share your data with the Hue cloud.

I know we already got another thread about this topic, but I wanted to highlight the stance of home assistant for this topic.

I really don’t see how you can argue with this post. Well, I can, but I really don’t want to think about it.

  • dueuwuje@aussie.zoneEnglish
    5·
    2 years ago

    This always annoys me. How can a device you have purchased outright with certain functionality, have the terms of service changed after the point of purchase which then changes that usage of the device.

    This seems like you could return for refund as the device is NOW not what you originally purchased.

    Where does this end? We buy a car then 5yrs later they change the terms of service and if you don’t agree you don’t get the right to have tires on your car.

    • Car@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      4·
      2 years ago

      Until something is legislated, this will continue to the end-user’s detriment.

      I bought some Philips Hue bulbs In something like 2015 which have worked mostly fine ever since, but the control surface has become more and more intrusive over the years. I’m now relegating the bulbs to dumb use until they finally die.

  • CrabAndBroom@lemmy.mlEnglish
    4·
    2 years ago

    Capitalism is so exhausting. Can’t they just make a lighbulb that changes colour and leave it at that?

    • Cegorach@feddit.deEnglish
      12·
      2 years ago

      you could buy that - but you decided on philips cloud crap instead?

  • auf@lemmy.mlEnglish
    1·
    2 years ago

    IKEA Tradfri’d be better, considering these changes. I have some for my bedroom and it’s working well with HASS.

  • sandmesomesand@midwest.socialEnglish
    1·
    2 years ago

    I guess I could keep buying them and sticking them on my zigbee network, but I should probably get off the Hue train before things get worse. The issue is that they’re just amazing bulbs and I can’t find a competitor with similar light and color tuning. Are there any comparable options yet?

      • relic_@lemm.eeEnglish
        1·
        2 years ago

        I wouldn’t say they’re great; they’re adequate. There’s a lot of issues with the bulb firmware that still needs ironing out both with stability and feature set.

          • relic_@lemm.eeEnglish
            1·
            2 years ago

            Basic features like turning a bulb on with a set brightness or color (if you’re lucky, you can turn on with a set brightness). No support for scenes (due to matter spec) which can lead to issues sending commands to light groups. And if you want to actually update bulbs good luck because it’s buggy as hell.

    • thedavid@reddthat.comEnglish
      1·
      2 years ago

      I have a nice mix of Hue and IKEA bulbs in my house, running on zigbee2mqtt. The IKEA bulbs are solid and I’ve had no major issues, but I did notice their smaller E14 bulbs had an annoying faint buzz sound when they were off, so they got swapped out for hue bulbs.

      But as long as you’re running zigbee2mqtt or some other hub I would still consider hue bulbs as an option.

  • 4am@lemm.eeEnglish
    1·
    2 years ago

    I liked having the full Hue ecosystem because it meant that I could tinker with HomeAssistant and the lights wouldn’t stop responding during restarts. I also already have a cloud account from the pre-HA days so that’s no big change for me but…

    This is still a scumbag move.