What’s the test for Linux user’s fantasizes moral superiority?

Those old POTS phone lines did carry a few volts.

No, I’m good. I’m not here to make friends. I’m not even expecting to challenge anyone’s techno-religion. At best I would say this is devil advocacy but it’s not quite that since it’s not about what I believe or do not believe. But it’s about what others believe and the display of fervent belief in others intrigue me, especially where it exists in the face of clear unambiguous reality.

For example, Trump supporters fascinate me in this same way. People say being nice is a better approach there as well, but i am not trying to deal with them or change their minds either. In that situation I refer to it as stick poking.

Again, it’s the belief that intrigues me. The sociology behind it is understudied.

Yes. Free to think it because it’s true. Apple doesn’t sell their users out, they get their money up front on the hardware…the thing people like you call the Apple Tax.

Except it’s not. It’s great that you understand most companies are positioned this way but Apple is not. I don’t expect anyone in a technology forum that cannot understand the nuances.

Paranoia is good but if you choose Google because you falsely believe you have no choice because everyone else is doing it too, then cool.

I am no pied piper and I wouldn’t want it any other way. I abhor groupthink and while I will never refrain from pointing out the obvious cases of it, I couldn’t care less if anyone listened. People far smarter than I have written on the folly of arguing in these instances.

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Hardware flaw

None of this is spyware. Not a single piece.

If I cared I could have guessed these were some of the examples you added to your “Apple is bad head cannon” but these still aren’t what is being alleged by the original poster, spyware.

At best you can claim Apple is using terms and conditions to add wiggle room but again, not spyware.

I asked if you know what spyware is but I get that it doesn’t matter. Your head cannon is unbeatable and it’s easier to dismiss me as a no nothing asshole. The crowd has spoke, this technology forum is more interested in groupthink than technology.

There are a lot of smart people making sure Apple hardware supports Linux. There is a limited number of variations, the hardware itself has high built quality and Apple pushes support into the Linux community so the hardware can more easily run Linux.

The same cannot be said about any random windows laptop.

As others have noted, if you want a Linux first laptop, there are options.

However this idea that Apple spies on its users has no merit. It’s a claim I have only witnessed being made by the witless.

I’ve been in the internet long enough to know not to expect fools to accept they are fools.

Unlike the morons of the internet, I am always ready to be proven wrong. However, it doesn’t look like that’s about to happen here.

You keep making that claim about spying without attempting to back it up.

Apple spyware means exactly what to you? You can’t just make shit up because you hate Apple. Then on top of that expect someone who is more knowledgeable to accept your ignorance.

When people ask for advice and reject the most common paths that professional take because they cannot get over their own ignorance, they aren’t actually asking for advice. They are playing victim and looking for their fellow ignorants to ditto them.

That wasn’t the accusation.

There are many who use Apple laptops as Linux laptops.

You made the accusation, you back it up. I’m not doing the leg work for you.

Apple spyware? Cute that you make shit up to justify your victimhood. The vendors that install actual spyware appreciate your ignorance.