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  • I think it may display a warning but thats it.

    Yeah that’s what I said. It is your opinion that a warning is not enough but I very much don’t feel that way. Users should be treated like adults by default.

    No they often take Windows 10 on FF ESR

    I don’t know what this means unless you’re saying it just always reports win 10

    As far as the rest of your comment… I have been building websites for 20 years now and I’m not content to do things the wrong way, so I’ve researched and considered the available options.

    It doesn’t matter if it’s a “browser problem” since I don’t get to tell users that iOS sucks ass, which it does.

    Kind of feels dismissive the way you’re hand waving away all the problems I deal with all the time. Like I said, until browsers behave consistently or at least predictably if they don’t support something, UA will be needed sometimes. I haven’t needed it for anything but safari in a long time but again I don’t get to tell those users to get a decent browser. On iOS they don’t even have that option if they were to want another browser.




  • Still unsure what you’re saying about https. Firefox treats insecure sites as dangerous and tries to tell the user to beware, for that one time a year you might run into that situation. And by default, insecure content in a secure page is blocked in FF and I think that was true even in IE 11. That’s been pretty standard for a long time.

    Regarding OS in the UA, no, rarely would you need it. I think browsers can send whatever they want there though. Are you saying that LibreWolf sends one without OS? Again to me it’s a little paranoid to nitpick this but what I thought you were saying before is that UAs should not exist period, which I was disputing because I literally have been spending the last month working through safari specific bugs that would be nearly impossible to handle without a UA string to know the user is running safari. Sometimes I do need to know iPad vs iPhone, but that’s not only rare but probably even more offensive to you than the UA mentioning the OS/OS family.


  • I really don’t understand. So the fact that FF warms you against a (btw rare) thing is somehow not enough? …

    And I’m telling you as a web developer who has to support multiple versions of Safari, it’s not something I can just dismiss as irrelevant as you’re apparently intent on doing.

    And about brave, you brought it up not me. Still don’t understand why it even came up, especially if you’re actively against it…


  • I agree with you about ads for sure. But I’m not really sure what you mean about https being off by default. What I’ve noticed is that if I type an IP address into the address bar, FF first tries https and if that fails falls back to http.

    Regarding UA string: As a web developer I have worked on many projects, one currently, where browsers misbehave in unpredictable ways. Most notable these days is Safari. Without a user agent string I really don’t have a way to workaround that browser’s shortcomings. Yes, for this purpose, the UA string should be a last resort because feature detection is best, but trust me feature detection isn’t always possible. It would not work for the current slew of issues I’m working through in Safari.

    Also, I would encourage you to read up on Brave and funder/fundamentalist Peter Thiel. Brave is not only a Google supporting browser by virtue of using chromium, it’s also wrapped up in some shady shit, including being funded by a conservative psychopath.