I generally use avocado and horseradish that I dye green for some reason.

Better to put thin slices of raw fish on it.

Next time use arborio rice. It sticks together nicely and creates a protective layer for your keyboard.

Antix would be removing the kinky German stuff, but also no.

Nope

Missionary but with a bunch of kinky German bondage equipment.

Depends what/when you mean.

Debian 12 was released in June and has some newer, and some older, packages than Ubuntu 24.04. For example Ubuntu has LibreOffice 24.2.2 while Debian has 7.4.5.

Debian testing currently has a similar distribution to Ubuntu 24.10, though over the next 6 months it’ll pull ahead of that, but Ubuntu 25.04 will likely have on average newer packages than Debian testing until its beta freeze.

Debian unstable has always had newer packages than the others.

“I hate noobs. So glad I never was one.”

- That same toxic fanatic

The first version of Windows I used was 2.0. NT was a huge improvement over the DOS based ones, but things started to go downhill with XP.

You mean Windows 2000?

It doesn’t - that’s the point.

Lol imagine a canonical employee using nixos

And they’re providing Ubuntu for free. If you were a paying customer and the contract you’d signed with them said they’d provide Firefox as a deb, that would be a different situation.

I agree, but unfortunately our opinions don’t move a gazillion finance bros

over the course of a few updates, they replaced half of your programs with snaps (without telling you),

You don’t need to lie. A full list of debs that have been transitioned to snaps is:

• Firefox
• Thunderbird
• Chromium

as you can see on other comments I’m not alone with that stance.

Being in the majority doesn’t necessarily make one right, as shown by [insert election result you disagree with here]. But if you actually are serious about that, you do realise how entitled it sounds to demand that someone do free work for you in the particular way you want it done?

And I believe you mean prerogative.

Because the separate installation means you can actually end up with both an apt installed and a snap installed.

This is something that can happen any time you have multiple package managers or even multiple repositories in the same package manager. Google’s official Chrome apt repo has debs for google-chrome-stable, google-chrome-beta and google-chrome-unstable, quite intentionally.

My comment about docker was a specific example of such a case, where vulnerabilities were introduced. It was actually a commonly used attack a few years ago to burn up other CPU and GPU to generate crypto

Can you provide a link to a source about that? I can’t find anything about it.

and you ended up with both a snap and apt installed docker

If you installed both the docker.io package from apt and the docker snap, yes you wound up with both. Just as if you install both google-chrome-stable and chromium you’ll end up with two packages of (almost) the same browser.

The fact that they are both packaged by Canonical is both irrelevant and a perfect example of the problem.

Then I’m gonna ask that you elaborate what specific problem you’re trying to explain here, because these seem pretty contradictory.

Yes, you are literally forcing me to accept your dollarinos, which, unless I exchange them MYSELF, are USELESS!

Hold on, have I fallen for Poe’s law?

In both cases, the packages are owned by the same people? (Fun fact: mozilla actually owns both the Firefox snap and the firefox package in the Ubuntu repos.) I’m non sure how that “potentially introduces vulnerabilities” any more than “having a package which has dependencies” does.

I’m not sure what you’re referring to with Docker. Canonical provides both the docker.io package in apt and the docker snap. Personally I use the snap on my machine because I need to be able to easily switch versions for my development work.

If you don’t want to explain, you’re perfectly welcome to not explain. But saying what amounts to “if you don’t know I’m not telling you”, especially when you weren’t specifically asked, is a pretty unkind addition to the conversation.