Malloc

That’s a good cat name!

Then the difference is really that someone else is handing the security, right? At the end of the day, there’s an encrypted file somewhere, and a TOTP only protects a particular connection by network.

KeepassXC handles TOTP.

One must imagine you happy

Yes! No more keyboard! Pick your letters with a mouse and menus.

Aw, I’m sure she’s happy with you too . ❤️

Eight Megabytes And Constantly Swapping

They’re deadly serious. Every Linux is the wrong Linux.

BSD is the only way.

(hears the rumble of the hurd in the distance)

Ah- then I have to dispute your theology on daemons.

WSL and Android, then?

Ok

They pass TCP over UDP.

I took a quick look at the GitHub repo - selfhosted Netbird looks harder and more resource hungry, not easier! At least compared to Nebula.

Wow, self-hosting Netbird is a lot more involved than Nebula, and needing a lot more resources!

Isn’t that the same with all of them? Using UDP so they can tunnel between machines that are both behind NAT?

Thank you, that’s helpful. I’ll look up Authentik.

1. Biggest thing was actually the sign up options. What if I don’t want my machines calling to Google or Microsoft to get access to Tailscale? I need to look up the other OIDC providers but don’t know much about that yet.
2. Then the fact of Nebula being fully open source and fully on my machines. (Though that’s a little undercut by the Android problem being solved only by their managed service).
3. Headscale gave me an impression of being more complicated to set up and maintain. Haven’t tried it yet, that was just my feel when I chose which one to try.
4. More recently, I saw Nebula’s interesting post on performance benchmarks. At high throughout Tailscale can be better for CPU but heavier on memory. Hopefully at my sort of very low throughout it’s small on memory but if I’m squeezing a client into a cheap vps alongside nextcloud and other things, memory use is more concerning to me than CPU… I wonder how much memory Tailscale uses when not doing much.

Does Tinc have advantages over Nebula? I was under the impression that both Nebula and Tailscale improved on Tinc, albeit in different ways.

I agree having a paid service, or some viable finance model, is a good sign for longevity …that said Nebula is what Slack use themselves so publicly or privately it’s going to be kept developed!

Just the fact the Android client is only properly configurable if you use their managed config service, made me worry a bit. Even though Tailscale you’re signing up for more eggs in their basket (unless you use Headscale), it felt like at least you start out on that basis, you aren’t pushed into it unexpectedly.

I do like that both projects talk politely about each other. That feels like a good sign for both!

I’ll check out Netbird, thank you.